Category Archives: Jokes

Elephant Volume

Title: Elephant Volume

General Information about Item:

  • Joke
  • English
  • United States

Informant Data:

  • Sarah Rote is a Dartmouth 18 studying environmental engineering. She’s a 21 year old from Newton Square, Pennsylvania.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context
    • This joke would be shared among peers during casual conversation for humorous effect. It would likely be exclusively shared among engineers who would find enjoyment in the self-deprecating humor, or among people of neighboring STEM fields in order to mock engineers.
  • Cultural Context
    • This joke hits upon a similar vein of cultural context as the “Sick Chicken” joke–the act of simplification for modeling engineering designs. A model that is overly simplified is a bad design, and so this joke mocks a “bad” engineer by exaggerating a trait that is stereotypically associated with engineers–the simplification of systems. What’s more, it draws on the cultural climate around mathematicians and physicists. Mathematicians are known for working almost exclusively in theoretical domains, so they rarely ever simplify. Math is concerned with exactness and precision,  and so some of the joke’s humor derives from emulating this archetype–the mathematician takes the most precise, and the most computationally heavy approach. Triple integration is the most precise and mathematically pure means of volume computation. The physicist emulates his own stereotype–the experimentally-driven. Physicists run physical experiments, unlike mathematicians,  so the physicist takes a very practical approach to volume calculation–water displacement. Then the engineer, as the punchline, is caught in the act of over-simplification just as the engineer in the Sick Chicken joke. He hazards a guess at the radius–not bothering with exact measurements and implying that he intends to model the elephant as a sphere.

Item:

A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer are at the circus. They ask each other what is the approximate volume of an elephant.

The mathematician starts drawing a triple integral and solving a complicated equation.

The physicist says, “We need a tank of water this big. We’re going to put the elephant in and measure the displacement.”

The engineer stretches out his arms and says, “Approximate radius of the elephant.”

Transcript:

  • Chrissy: Could you state your name and background?
  • Sarah: My name is Sarah. I’m an 18 studying environmental engineering.
  • Chrissy: And can you tell me what your joke is?
  • Sarah: Uh, a mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer are at the circus. They ask each other what is the approximate volume of an elephant. The mathematician starts drawing a triple integral and solving a complicated equation. The physicist says “We need a tank of water this big, gonna put the elephant in and measure the displacement.” The engineer stretches out his arms and says “Approximate radius of the elephant.”
  • Chrissy: (laughs) Could you tell us, uh, when–do you remember when you first heard the joke?
  • Sarah: I mean I think I read it online but I don’t remember the exact setting.
  • Chrissy: And can you give kind of a brief explanation of the joke. What about engineering culture makes it funny?
  • Sarah: Um, about the engineer, its that–make very broad approximations of real life. As in, an elephant is not a sphere. The mathematician makes it very exact, but the engineers approximate a lot.

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Informant’s Comments:

Collector’s Comments:

Collector’s Name: Christina Long

Tags/Keywords:

  • Joke. Elephant volume. Engineering. Circus.

Sick Chicken

Title: Sick Chicken

General Information about Item:

  • Joke
  • Not language-specific

Informant Data:

  • Ci Yu Yan is a 3-2 Dual Degree student from Vassar College who’s studying computer engineering at Dartmouth.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context
    • This is a piece of folklore that would likely be shared among peers in a light-hearted manner. If shared among engineers, it would be humorous self-deprecation. If shared among a rivaling scientific field, it would be to mock engineers.
  • Cultural Context
    • This joke makes humorous light of a common challenge engineers face: the practice of making necessary simplifications to models without compromising its practicality. From outside the cultural perspective, an audience to the joke could easily pick up on the fact that the humor is in the absurdity of the simplifications the engineer makes when assessing the chicken. However, there is more nuance to understanding the joke. Good modeling is usually a trade-off. A complicated and specific model might give the most accurate result, but it may be entirely impractical to compute. On the other end of the spectrum, an overly-simplified model is practical to work with, but may be grossly inaccurate. One of the biggest frustrations in engineering is creating a model that works in theory, and falls apart in practice. The simplifications that an engineer makes are meant to be almost secret–the non-informed spectator should trust that the engineer’s model is “correct” to the real world system, even though the real system is so vastly complicated that no doubt simplifications and assumptions needed to be made. The joke makes light of that “secret” coming to light in a clumsy, absurd way.The engineer has taken an extremely complicated system–a living creature–and applied some of the most basic and reductive assumptions that engineers like to work with–spherical shape and no air friction. Obviously, the model falls apart, so the humor comes from an engineer understanding the absurd hyperbole of the common occurrence of a model being oversimplified.

Item:

A farmer has some chickens, except one of these chickens is sick, so he hires an engineer to look at his chicken and see what’s wrong.

The engineer comes, observes the chicken, does some calculations and says, “Okay, I know what’s wrong with your chicken, but only if it’s spherical and in a vacuum.”

Transcript:

  • Chrissy: Alright, so what’s your name and background?
  • Ci Yu: Ci Yu Yan. Background is a 3-2 student from Vassar doing electrical engineering.
  • Chrissy: And what’s the joke?
  • Ci Yu: Okay so this is a joke I heard on tv, but, um. So, this farmer has all these chickens, except one of these chickens is sick, so he hires an engineer to like, look at his chicken and see what’s wrong. So the engineer comes and observes the chicken and does all these calculations and is like, “Okay, I know what’s wrong with your chicken, but only if it’s spherical and in a vacuum.”
  • Chrissy: Okay, and what’s the explanation of the joke?
  • Ci Yu: So the explanation of the joke is that, um, when you like take any physics or engineering classes, a lot of the, like, problems are simplified to like have very ideal conditions without including, like, a lot of things like friction or other disturbances so, yeah.

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Collector’s Name: Christina Long

Tags/Keywords:

  • Joke. Sick chicken. Vacuum. Engineering. Hyperbole.

Toilet Break

Title: Toilet Break

General Information about Item:

  • Joke
  • Not language specific.

Informant Data:

  • Anthony Addo is a senior at Dartmouth College studying Computer Science. He was born in Connecticut but has lived in Ohio and Ghana, and currently lives in Ghana.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context
    • The joke was collected on November 6th, 2017. Anthony first encountered the joke as it was told by his friend Sam when they were both in CS 31, Dartmouth’s class on algorithms. Anthony noted that CS 31 is a “very tough course,” and that jokes were shared between students in this course as a way to relieve stress.
  • Cultural Context
    • The CS 31 Algorithms course is known to be one of the more difficult courses in the Computer Science department, and taking the course can be considered a rite of passage for students of Computer Science. The joke’s somewhat taboo toilet humor adds some levity and fun to a stressful term for students of the course. The joke also references some popular stereotypes of tech companies like Microsoft, IBM, and Apple, reducing and parodying their programming practices and policies into a punchline centered around bathroom etiquette. This sort of toilet humor can be enjoyed not only by computer scientists and students of computer science, but anyone in the world with knowledge of the stereotypes associated with Microsoft, IBM, and Apple in terms of how they approach writing code and how these companies view each other.

Item:

Three programmers meet accidentally at the urinal while attending a technical conference. The first programmer finishes up his business, washes his hands with loads of water, walks over to the towels and uses almost the entire roll to dry his hands. He turns to the other two and says “At Microsoft, we are trained to be extremely thorough.”

The second programmer finishes up, walks over to the sink and washes his hands with much less water, then uses a single towel to dry his hands. He remarks to the other two “At IBM, we are trained not only to be very thorough, but also very efficient.”

The third programmer finishes his business, walks right past the sink and towel rack and lauds over his shoulder as he walks over the door: “At Apple we don’t piss in our hands!”

Transcript:

  • Stephanie: Can you tell me your name and background please?
  • Anthony: My name is Anthony Addo. I was born in Connecticut but I’ve lived my life in Ohio and Ghana. I currently live in Ghana. I’m a Computer Science major, uh, and I’m a senior at Dartmouth College, an ’18.
  • Stephanie: Wonderful. Can you tell me the joke you have?
  • Anthony: Yes. Alright, listen closely. Three programmers meet accidentally at the urinal while attending a technical conference. The first programmer finishes up his business, washes his hands with loads of water, walks over to the towels and uses almost the entire roll to dry his hands. He turns to the other two and says “At Microsoft, we are trained to be extremely thorough.” The second programmer finishes up, walks over to the sink and washes his hands with much less water, then uses a single towel to dry his hands. He remarks to the other two “At IBM, we are trained not only to be very thorough, but also very efficient.” The third programmer finishes his business, walks right past the sink and towel rack and lauds over his shoulder as he walks over the door: “At Apple we don’t piss in our hands!”
  • Stephanie: Ah, alright. Could you tell me where you first heard the joke please?
  • Anthony: I first heard the joke from my friend Sam, at this CS — I think it was CS31 — uh, very tough course, but we were just trying to loss some steam doing a joke, it was really good.
  • Stephanie: Alright, and can you explain why the joke is funny?
  • Anthony: It’s funny because… it’s interesting, because um… the first programmer mentions that he is extremely thorough with how he does his work. He’s a programmer, and he makes sure he gets all the loopholes, and makes sure he goes through every single one. As for the second programmer from IBM, who only uses one towel to wash his hands, or to dry his hands, uh… He’s simply very efficient with his code, he makes sure his code is, it’s simple and clean… As for the Apple programmer, he just does the job. He simply streamlines it,  and does it perfectly every single time.
  • Stephanie: Thank you very much!

 

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Collector’s Name: Stephanie Guo

Tags/Keywords:

  • Joke. Tech company. Microsoft. IBM. Apple. Toilet.

Eye Doctor

Title: Eye Doctor

General Information about Item:

  • Joke
  • English
  • United States

Informant Data:

  • Anthony Addo is a senior at Dartmouth College studying Computer Science. He was born in Connecticut but has lived in Ohio and Ghana, and currently lives in Ghana.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context
    • The joke was collected on November 6th, 2017. Anthony first encountered the joke as it was told to him by a friend in his CS 1 class. His friend introduced this joke to Anthony to help “ease his nerves” since he was struggling with an assignment, and its relative simplicity  makes it accessible to any English speaker who has heard of the programming languages Java and C#.
  • Cultural Context
    • The CS 1 course is the introductory computer science course at Dartmouth, and is often the first time students are exposed to the world of computer programming. This pun in particular makes use of the homonymous relationship between the name of the programming language C# (pronounced see-sharp) and the phrase “see sharp,” as in “seeing clearly.” It derives humor from an English pun on the letter “C” and the word “see” and doesn’t require any programming knowledge besides the fact that a language called C# exists, and is a properly simplistic and funny joke to share with an English-speaking student programmer feeling discouraged with an assignment.

Item: 

Q: Why did the Java programmer go see the eye doctor?

A: Because he didn’t C#!

Transcript:

  • Stephanie: Alright, could you give me your name and background please?
  • Anthony: My name is Anthony Addo. I’m a Dartmouth ’18. Born in Hartford, Connecticut but also have lived in Ohio and Ghana.
  • Stephanie: Alright, what’s your joke?
  • Anthony: My joke, as a computer science is this joke. Why did the Java programmer go see the eye doctor? Because he didn’t C#! Badun tsss!
  • Stephanie: Alright. Um, can you tell me where you first heard the joke, or who told it to you?
  • Anthony: I first heard the joke in my CS1 class. I was doing some really really um, hard, Python, I was trying to make some sort of, um, planetary , motion. And it was really wracking my brain, so I asked my friend, just to help me out. The first thing he did was try to ease my nerves by telling me this joke. I laughed. Well, I chuckled. But it was good.
  • Stephanie: Alright, and can you explain why it’s funny?
  • Anthony: Absolutely. So in computer science you have many languages. Java isn’t coffee, its actually a language. So java is one language, and C# is also a language as well. So “C#” is actually a pun on “seeing sharp”!

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Collector’s Name: Stephanie Guo

Tags/Keywords:

  • Joke. English. Eye Doctor. Java. C#.

COBOL++

Title: COBOL++

General Information about Item:

  • Joke
  • Programming knowledge / not English-language specific
  • United States

Informant Data:

  • Professor Tom Cormen has taught in the Computer Science department for 26 years. He’s well known as a coauthor of Introduction to Algorithms and author of Algorithms Unlocked.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context
    • The joke was collected on November 6th, 2017. Professor Cormen encountered this joke many years ago on the internet, and it would generally have shared between computer scientists who had encountered the languages C, C++, and COBOL in the late ’90s and early 2000s.
  • Cultural Context
    • This joke is one of the least accessible in our collection, requiring knowledge of the relationship between programming languages not named in the actual text of the joke (C and C++) and understanding of the plus-plus operator. The procedural programming language COBOL was created in 1959 and has mostly fallen out of general use; additionally, the newer version of COBOL (updated in 2002) was made to already be object-oriented, defeating the premise of the joke. (An object-oriented programming language is one in which we define objects that can hold data and perform certain functions, and the relationships between these objects.) Thus, the fact that COBOL was not an object-oriented language before 2002, compounded by its relative obscurity as a “legacy” language, would be lost to most computer scientists today. This particular joke was widely shared on the internet years ago between computer scientists who were familiar with all the references. The “improved” version of COBOL in the joke has a ridiculously long name (“Add one to COBOL given COBOL”), and undergraduate students who know that C++ is the object-oriented version of C will still find the joke funny, but less so than if they had known about COBOL’s reputation for excessive verbosity.

Item:

Q: Did you hear about the object-oriented version of COBOL?

A: It’s called “add one to COBOL given COBOL”!

Transcript:

  • Stephanie: Um, could you say your name and background please?
  • Prof Cormen: Yeah, Tom Cormen, I’m a computer science professor at Dartmouth, I’m in my 26th year here.
  • Stephanie: Could you tell me the joke that you have prepared today?
  • Prof Cormen: The joke is, did you hear about the object-oriented version of COBOL? It’s called “add one to COBOL given COBOL”.
  • Stephanie: And where did you first hear this joke?
  • Prof Cormen: I’m sure I saw it on the internet years ago.
  • Stephanie: Alright. And could you explain the joke very briefly?
  • Prof Cormen: So the joke requires understanding a few things. First of all that, the language C++ is supposed to be an object oriented version of C. that the plus-plus operator means add one to something, so that’s C++, the joke in just the name of that language is it’s one better than C. In the language COBOL, it’s much more verbose, and the way that you would say add — take a variable and add one to it and store that back into the variable is, you say “add one to the name of the variable given the name of the variable”. So in this case it’s COBOL, add one to COBOL given COBOL, meaning that it’s one more than what it was.

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Collector’s Name: Stephanie Guo

Tags/Keywords:

  • Joke. COBOL. Programming.

The Optimist, Pessimist, and the Engineer Joke

Title: The Optimist, Pessimist, and the Engineer Joke

General Information about Item:

  • Genre and Sub Genre: Verbal Folklore: Joke
  • Language: English
  • Country where Item is from: United States

Informant Data:

  • Bharath Katragadda is a Junior (Class of 2019) at Dartmouth College who is completing his Bachelor of Engineering modified with economics. He has already completed the majority of the engineering requirements so therefore has taken many engineering classes in the Thayer school of engineering. I interviewed Bharath in the library on 10/4/17.

Contextual Data:

  • Social Context/Cultural Context: This joke is a variation of the common optimist vs. pessimist observation of a glass of water, in this case an engineer is added to the group. The optimist will see it as half-full and the pessimist as half-empty. While the perceptions of the optimist and pessimist remain constant throughout all variations, the added perception acts as the main part of the joke and is used to target certain groups or sub-groups such as engineers.

Item:

  • The joke itself is the item that engineers tell each other or others say when commenting on the typical behavior of engineers. Instead of giving a straightforward answer like the glass is half full/empty the engineer gives a much more analytical observation. The observation is what reflects the common stereotypes, in this case that of being over-analytical, associated with engineers.

Associated file (a video, audio, or image file):

Transcript of Joke:

So an optimist, a pessimist, and an engineer walk into a bar and there is a glass that is half filled.

The optimist says: “The glass is half full”

The pessimist says: “The glass is half empty”

The engineer says: “The glass is two times too big”

Informant’s Comments:

  • Bharath said that he saw this joke on a poster in one of his engineering classes in Thayer.
  • He also asserted that being over-analytical is a trait that he sees in many of his peers that are engineers and is easily observable in any sort of engineering related class or group project.

Collector’s Comments:

  • This engineering variation of a very common saying is the epitome of dry engineering humor. Without any preexisting knowledge of engineer stereotypes the joke does not make sense. This joke serves the purpose of separating engineers into an entirely different breed of people, atypical from the norm.

Collector’s Name: Marwan Zelmat

Tags/Keywords:

  • Verbal Lore, Joke

 

“C’s Get Degrees”

Title: “C’s Get Degrees”

General Information about Item

Genre/Subgenre: Oral folklore: saying

Language: English

Nation of Origin: United States of America

Informant Data:

Peter Wang is a male, 21 year old Dartmouth College student in his senior year. He is currently studying Economics and is from Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. Peter participated in corporate recruiting during Summer of 2015, Fall of 2015, Summer of 2016, and Fall of 2016. He will be working for Applied Predictive Technologies consulting after graduation.

Contextual Data:

The saying in question is a common saying amongst those going through the corporate recruiting, or tough academic times in general. The saying “C’s get degrees” is meant to state that those with bad grades (C’s) can still obtain a degree and graduate. The saying is meant to humorously provide a sense of comfort during hard times. It is important to note that the saying is not exclusive to the recruiting process, but that it was quite popular amongst those going through the recruiting process, as it was a difficult time for all those involved.

Transcript of Associated File:

Q: Hi, what is your name and year?

A: Peter Wang, ‘17

Q: What is your major?

A: Economics

Q: What are you doing after graduation?

A: I’m working for APT in Washington DC

Q: Have you heard of any sayings, superstitions, or jokes about the corporate recruiting process?

A: Yea, there’s one sort of joke/saying that goes “C’s get degrees!”. I remember during corporate recruiting season, when interview decisions were coming out and no one was getting interviews, I would just burst out with “Hey, at least C’s get degrees!” and all my friends would start laughing.

Q: Interesting, what sort of role did this saying play amongst your friend group?

A: It was just a funny way to relieve stress and keep our minds off the bad decisions

Q: Would you say it’s specific to Dartmouth?

A: No, I would say I hear it the most at Dartmouth but I’ve definitely heard it at other schools

Informant’s Comments:

The informant stated that the corporate recruiting process can often be grueling and mentally straining, and in order to keep the mood lighthearted after a job rejection or other disheartening news, students would say “At least C’s get degrees”. Such a saying would generally elicit a chuckle from those surrounding and serve to keep spirits and morale high during difficult times.

Collector’s Comments:

This example of oral folklore illustrates the difficult and exhausting nature of the corporate recruiting process. It serves as a humorous, rallying saying intended to raise the morale of those who hear it. Its effectiveness may be debatable. It may also be classified as a joke or tease due to its humorous nature.

Collector’s Name: Matthew Kang, Dartmouth College ‘18

Not Very Nice

Title: Not Very Nice

Informant Info: Charles Jang is an Executive Editor Emeritus and former Office Manager of The Dartmouth Review. He is a ’16 from Fort Worth, TX. He was interviewed on May 24, 2016 at the Review office in Hanover, NH.

Type of Lore: Verbal, Joke

Language: English

Country of Origin: United States

Social / Cultural Context: This joke is quite new to the Review, and it arose from a series of controversial events that took place on the Dartmouth campus during Fall term 2016. The series of events culminated in Vice Provost for Student Affairs Inge-Lise Ameer saying a series of rather controversial and one-sided statements that subsequently caused many to criticize her. Eventually, Dean Ameer was forced to apologize for saying that conservatives are “not very nice.”

Transcript:

Oh god, where to begin. We like to make fun of Dean Ameer a lot. After the library protest, she had to tuck the protesters into bed by saying “there’s a whole conservative world out there that’s not very nice.” And we’ve been calling ourselves “not very nice” ever since.

Collector’s Comments:  The Review was at the forefront of the campus political dialogue during this period of time, and Dean Ameer’s comments will definitely not be forgotten by the Review any time soon. This joke serves to remind Review members of the events revolving around this phrase, which attracted national attention and much positive publicity for the Review on account of its strong reporting. It also reminds Reviewers of the openly adverse reaction by some members of the administration toward the Review.

Technology and Email

Title: Technology and Email

Informant Info: Mene Ukueberuwa is an Editor-in-Chief Emeritus of The Dartmouth Review. He is a ’16 (formerly ’14) from Princeton, NJ. He was interviewed on May 12, 2016 at the Collis Center in Hanover, NH.

Type of Lore: Verbal, Joke

Language: English

Country of Origin: United States

Social / Cultural Context:  Technology and in particular jokes about Jeff Hart’s email have become a part of the ReviewIt has become somewhat of a joke for Reviewers to refer to themselves as “vigilantly crusading against technology since 1980.” It is poking fun at how conservatives are often regarded as old-fashioned and against progress, making light of the legendary figure of Jeff Hart as well.

Transcript:

Well we’ve had some big colorful characters like I mentioned. One of them is our illustrious founder, Jeffrey Hart, who despite his brilliant side, the field of English and interpretation, definitely was not the most technologically savvy. So one of the funnier things was the fact that he never really quite got a grasp of email. But I think, one of the staffers or another young person in his life encouraged him to start using email as a communication medium. He took it up and he would actually type out the emails perfectly, you know like, good language, proper formatting, but then rather than send the email via the internet, he would actually just print it out and then put it in the post as a regular letter, and I think it was totally lost on him that he wasn’t getting it quite right.  

Collector’s Comments: The veracity of the story behind the email jokes is to be questioned, but staffers often make fun of their technological competence (or lack thereof) in a display of solidarity with Jeff Hart. For example, staff members may joke about how they would like to return to communicating by carrier pigeon and telegraph, rather than using more modern forms of communication such as “the interwebs,” whatever they are.

Quentin Kopp Jokes

Title: Quentin Kopp Jokes

Informant Info: Mene Ukueberuwa is an Editor-in-Chief Emeritus of The Dartmouth Review. He is a ’16 (formerly ’14) from Princeton, NJ. He was interviewed on May 12, 2016 at the Collis Center in Hanover, NH.

Type of Lore: Verbal, Joke

Language: English

Country of Origin: United States

Social / Cultural Context: The Review has some eccentric subscribers. Some of the mail sent by these subscribers have now become jokes that are often repeated within the organization.

Transcript:

Very true. We have definitely some eccentric subscribers who like to send us letters to the editor, comments, criticism, things like that.  So one of the more famous is a fellow named Quentin Kopp, class of ‘49, so getting up there in years, and he’s a very careful reader of the paper, so he sent us some letters criticizing our use of language, I remember one of our staffers named Charles Jang coined the term “studentry” to refer to the student body, and Quentin Kopp sent him an angry letter telling to “shape up.”  Most recently, Mr. Kopp sent us a letter pointing out that some of the people listed on our advisory board in the paper have passed and asking us to update that, but he also was under the false impression that one of our students, a freshman, had passed, and asked us “Is Max Frankel alive?”, which made us all kind of scratch our heads, we made sure to check on him to see if he indeed was, but it was a good thing that he was safe and sound.

Is Max Frankel alive?

Is Max Frankel alive?

Collector’s Comments: “Is Max Frankel alive?” is now a joke often repeated within the organization. “Shape up!” is also a common expression used in an ironic and joking way at the Review. These jokes bring the organization together and also help bridge the gap with alumni who may be from another generation.